ETHNOPOLITICS is still relevant in multiracial Malaysia, said Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah, adding that it was not racial in nature but to ensure that a certain group benefits from the struggle.
However, he expressed his fears that the minorities in the country will be emboldened by the economic prowess of China and India and that could lead to trouble.
“With China and India coming up very fast, the minorities in the country are going to feel very inspired and there will be clashes with the bigger number of Malays. That’s what I’m afraid of,” he said recently.
“To reflect what is happening in the United States and many countries in Europe, such as France, people are becoming very nationalistic along ethnic lines. And, therefore, it’s still relevant and the feeling is the same here.
“It’s not racial but it’s to ensure that a certain group will benefit from the struggle. It’s not about challenging others in a fight but it’s about trying to better oneself. I think that’s what (Donald) Trump is doing in America,” said the 82-year-old Gua Musang MP.
The world’s longest serving MP (51 years) also said PAS and Umno – both vying for the Malay support – must get the objectives of their partnership in order.
“It came out of the blue and Umno and PAS were embracing each other and said they were going to cooperate. But PAS leaders said they weren’t going to cooperate but were going piece by piece.
“We know that PAS is going along the Islamic path based on their approach to it, which is not wholly Islamic. But are we going to subscribe to that? Are they going with our nationalistic approach?”
Below are excerpts from the interview:
Q: Is ethnopolitics still the way to go in a multiracial country? Could we not try to be like other multiracial countries, such as France or US, which are based on nation-state identity?
TR: We can aspire to that but it’s not going to be easy. We have 10% Indians and 25% Chinese and it’s good for diversity and provides completion for progress.
The core problem is how do we ensure our wealth is shared fairly. With money in the pockets, nobody will want to fight.
With China and India coming up very fast, the minorities in the country are going to feel very inspired and there will be clashes with the bigger number of Malays. That’s what I’m afraid of.
Hence, politics must be accepted by all and not in extremes. It won’t work.

Q: What kind of cooperation is feasible with PAS?
TR: It came out of the blue, and Umno and PAS were embracing each other and said they were going to cooperate. But PAS leaders said they weren’t going to cooperate but were going piece by piece.
They said they will consider on the cooperation for the next elections. They have set up a technical committee but what technical committee?
We know that PAS is going along the Islamic path based on their approach to it, which is not wholly Islamic. But are we going to subscribe to that? Are they going with our nationalistic approach?
Q: Can it work?
TR: It has worked before but probably everyone is going in their own direction and try to meet somewhere in the middle to win elections.
Q: Can Umno and PAS share power in the Malay-majority states (Kedah, Kelantan and Terengganu)?
TR: We did it very well during the time of Abdul Razak (Hussein – the second prime minister) and won elections and implemented programmes everywhere.
And we were received very well. But then there was a divergence and some wanted to emphasise on the party side and not the national wellbeing. This caused the split and the conflict started from there.
I would like to know where we are going now. It’s not a very difficult question.
If you think clearly and think it through, what do you want? Umno is (a) reject. It can say it has the most number of people in Parliament but it was rejected at the state and national level.
Q: BN has been successful as a political party serving different communal interests. Can BN win again if it partners PAS on a conservative platform?
TR: To reflect what is happening in the United States and in many countries in Europe, such as France, people are becoming very nationalistic along ethnic lines. And, therefore, it’s still relevant and the feeling is the same here.
It’s not racial but it’s to ensure that a certain group will benefit from the struggle. It’s not about challenging others in a fight but it is about trying to better oneself. I think that’s what (Donald) Trump is doing in America.
Except for Germany, which is very open, everyone seems to be doing that.
I think the approach is not wrong and it’s not racism but about looking after the group that one is serving.

Q: But can BN succeed from this approach?
TR: That’s what the world is feeling at the moment. And it’s not just peculiar to Malaysia. Even in China, people are growing more nationalistic and they are asserting themselves.
Q: In your opinion, who should Umno work with?
TR: I don’t know how to advise as there is no certainty. When there’s a by-election, they work together with PAS. But we don’t know what are the principles governing this working relationship.
Is this relationship only meant to win elections or is PAS going to be a component of Barisan Nasional like in the past under Abdul Razak to reduce politicking and focus on developing the country?
There doesn’t seem to be any certainty to the current partnership.
There’s no depth in the thinking and I cannot subscribe to this kind of way of thinking. Everything’s ad hoc.
How far should we work with PAS? Should we adopt their ideology or should PAS accept our ideology or is there a meeting point where we can work together?
There’s no indication at all. We partnered PAS to reject ICERD and held a rally but people say that was a PAS rally and we were mere followers.
So where is Umno in all this as a party that has a considerable number of followers and MPs? – June 7, 2019.
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